Thursday, January 04, 2007

Remarkably Mark #42

#42: Mike Hipp on Veganism

Mike Hipp from and joins me for a friendly chat about veganism, vegetarianism, and carnivorism. We also chat about a recent statement by an ex-general about gays in the military.

Theme Music: "Viva Remarkably Mark!" by John Ong.

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At 2:26 AM, Blogger DaveinVA said...

wow the candles and the soup! should get some pos press

At 11:38 AM, Blogger Mike said...

Thanks for having me on Mark. I really really enjoyed our conversation and I think that we might have enlightened a few people, from the responses that I'm getting.

Thank you again.

Mike Hipp

At 2:57 PM, Anonymous John Ong said...

Mke Hipp, sorry I forgot your name on my show. Oops. I am getting older.

I want to chime in on the vegetarian definition.
I have my theory about why some people think of vegetarians eat fish. A vegetarian to some means one who doesn't comsume meat. And MEAT itself is different from one culture to another. Meat by definition of course covers beef, pork, chicken, but to some, meat is the meat that they eat most. American, beef is the main meat. From my cultural background, when we say meat in Chinese, we mean pork. To our Muslim friends, meat means beef, and some Indians, meat means mutton. In fact, in Malay, which is a native language by most Malays, who are mostly Muslims, "daging" generally means meat. But it's a given that "daging" means "daging lembu" (beef), but for chicken you'd have to say "daging ayam" to make that chicken meat.

At 1:25 PM, Blogger DaveinVA said...


Why did you become vegetarian and then vegan? Just personal belief system? The first time I ate in a vegan establishment was in HS in Santa Cruz CA, and when we went in we had no idea what it meant, but the food was good. I think anyone can be healthy and eat well whether you eat meat or not and it takes effort either way.

I have often wondered if it is healthy for an animal like a dog or cat to be put on vegetarian diets as they are carnivores by design. I have never read anything about it and I am sure a nutritional diet can be provided to cats and dogs, it just seems to go against the laws of nature.

At 3:43 PM, Anonymous John M. said...

No offense to Mike, but this conversation really needs to occur between Mark and Colleen Patrick-Goudreau.

If you can't make that happen, then please read her article "No Excuse For Compassionate Eating," found here:

At 9:18 PM, Blogger Mike said...


I think it's a natural progression to go from vegetarian to vegan. At least it was for me. Vegetarian was for my health and for compassion. Vegan is for compassion with positive health benefits.

Of course anyone can eat a healthy diet and eat meat.... but ask your doctor, I'll bet he'll tell you to cut down your meat portions and increas your vegetable portions. Doesn't it make sense that it would be even more healthful to cut out meat and animal based products all together to make your diet as healthy as possible? Consider that the only place that you can get cholesterol is from animal products. Consider that the average meat eater has three pounds of animal flesh rotting in their colon at any given moment, contributing to colon cancer and whole body toxification. Consider the hormones and antibiotics that are injected into the animals that you consume. Consider the cruelity and suffering that industrial farmed animals go through for their entire lives before they are slaughtered.

On the vegan dog and cat issue. Dogs are not carnivores, they are omnivores, just like we are. They can get all of their nutrients from vegetables and grains, just like a vegan can. Cats are true carnivores so I won't be switching cali to a vegan diet.

At 10:15 PM, Blogger Mike said...

I'm sorry, I should have said that the only place our bodies get excess cholesterol is from animal products. Of course, your body makes what little cholesterol it needs on its own.

At 12:41 AM, Blogger Bryan Carlson said...

If I could cook i would love to be a vegetarian, as long as I could have chicke, tuna and salmon, red snapper, sea food and the occasional KFC....I can;t cook and therefore just watch the red meat and eat lots of free range chickens, fruit, fish, seafood, and avoid all friend foods and pastas. Of course i work out at the gym 5 days a week, and if i could stay out of the steam room and hot tub I would probably get more than a four day routine. but I'm a perv. Now Someone needs to ban fat old men from the steam room, they insist of flopping around naked and causing me to have nightmares and loss of any feeling in my organs for hours. Isn't it awesome how I can run a discussion on vegans into steam room escapades? Damn I am good. Guess that why I am a lawyer!

At 7:50 PM, Blogger cj69collins said...

I just listened to this program. I love how the conversation went from veganism to narcissism and freedom. It is rare to hear such an intelligent conversation. Bravo.

At 8:04 PM, Blogger ReMARKable Palate said...

Thanks, CJ. You can feel free to contribute to the dialogue on any of the topics. Please feel free to leave a voice message with the MyChingo utility on the sidebar, or leave a voice message on the skypein line at 646-797-3196. :-)


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